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T O P I C R E V I E WThe Mutable Night ForceIs it just me, or do people with Libra risings have some bizarre compulsion to try and not show favouratism?(To those of you offended by generalizations, I'm not making a statement- I'm asking! )I know a couple of Libra risings. They both try to treat their friends with equal love/hatred (depends on the mood) but react in the same way to everyone, treating them with an almost irritating amount of fairness. OK, so in words this sounds like a lovely trait to have, but the downside is I can never tell who they do really like! Or whether they like me better than so and so etc... Again, maybe you're thinking "It's nice to like everyone!" But it's pretty much impossible, I'm sure they must 'really' prefer some people to others, and if this isn't the case, how are you meant to make an impression on them?One Libra rising I know is fantastic, I really like him, but it seems he is just as polite/nice to all my other friends, even when they do something like (and this really happened) phone him at 1 in the morning randomly or talk nonsense to him! He is too darn nice!! How am I meant to know if he actually likes me? (I can't ask him, he answers awkwardly 'Er... I like you all...!') If he really is just being nice, again, how can I tell?Surely these people are impressionable somehow? Or do they just not show it?Anyone here a Libra Asc? Know one? Please help 1scorpI think I just try to be polite Almost everyone gets an equal: please, thank-you... and usually a smile I try and give everyone I meet an honest chance. It takes a lot for me not to like someone Well maybe not so much... as long as you're polite, honest, and treat me with the same respect I treat you... I like you "They both try to treat their friends with equal love/hatred (depends on the mood) but react in the same way to everyone, treating them with an almost irritating amount of fairness". I can see how it could get annoying. I can relate with the 1:00 a.m. phone calls. I'm "that" friend. As long as these people aren't avoiding you, than I'd say they like you. As far as liking you more than the others? Hmmmm... If I go out of my way to be around a person, I generally enjoy them more than average. __________________________________________-Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury and uranus Libra moon, pluto and asc. The Mutable Night ForceThanks for the reply 1scorp!Cool, that's a three-person pattern so far now including you! No, sadly, he doesn't go out of his way to be around me. Does this make me just yet another person to be polite to in a sea of diplomacy?ed: we don't live near each other- this may be the reason!alanabelle86yea same here. i try to be polite...upon first meeting someone or not knowing anyone well enough at least. it thinks the whole libra influence of not wanting to have *too* much on one side and not enough on the other. cant like this person toooo much cuz then this person wont get enough. its almost liek i feel bad if i give one of my friends more attention and hang out with them more than i do with another set of friends or friend. i feel like im betraying them because i'm showing the other friends more attention. it's weirdi do find myself doing that a lot, its like i obviously KNOW the decision but for...*appearance wise* i dont wanna seem rude or anything so to make everyone happy why not just make it equal? :-)------------------Libra Rising, Scorpio Sun, Leo MoonThe Mutable Night ForceOoo, thank you alanabelle, that ties in nicely with the theory! But what i want to know is-do you guys secretly like someone better, although you might try to hide it?orIsn't there a special something that would make you want, for instance, to marry one person and not another, and how can someone else tell?..... hmmmmmm... this is all very confusing......1scorpI think Tink's a Libra asc. also. She may be able to shed some insight of her own. I'm assuming (could be wrong, correct me if so) that you're attracted to this person?Well, I don't really know if it has much to do with my Libra asc. or not... but I'm generally not the type that will make the first initial "move" on another. I can be a bit confusing in that area. If someone is interested, they almost have to smack me with it... or else I'll think they're just being friendly. Unless it's completely obvious. belle: It can be exhausting, can't it? ________________________________________Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury and uranusLibra moon, pluto and asc. The Mutable Night ForcelolYes, 1scorp, I am attracted to this person Oh, and I think he knows. I told him... Stupid me..... oh well....This isn't a bad thing in Libra asc books, is it....?1scorp Nah, not bad It's always nice to get a genuine compliment. It will give him something to think on. Just continue to be his friend. Maybe try and give him a gentle nudge... see how he reacts. What works on me? Charm and good conversation. Good luck to you. __________________________________________Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury and uranusLibra moon, pluto and asc. WaterNymphOooo my best girl has Libra rising. But I have to admit she’s not like that.She’s very protective and in true Cancer fashion cares only for her group - only she’s not a Cancer…she’s a triple Aqua with Sun in the 4th. Soo kinda like a Cancer…I think.But yeah, I’ve noticed Libras rising’s and Sun’s……..and Moons try really hard to please people.SecretGardenAgainyes MNF it definitely describes me i try to be just and not play favorites, i never use the term best friend around any of my friends because it might make one or others feel like the 'not best' and thus outcast friend...with all acquaintances i try to be smiley and polite the same, ex. is that my bro is in jail for something he did wrong, i did not try to save him, he deserved justly to go to jail so that hes away from society. my mom finds this inhumane in me...i think the strength of this affect would also be affected by the aspect of the ascendant with merc and sun, my libra asc trines gem sun and gem merc, so generally come off as positive to the ppl who i put as equals. LoveSGalanabelle86MNF-always.. i have definite favorites.. i may not show it, but theres always someone i like better than others. just because i treat everyone the same, doesnt always mean i feel that way. as i said, its just not to make myself look *bad*you me and my scorpionic side.... extreme likes and dislikes . i tend to make the first move as well, so i mean its pretty obvious if after a while in terms of who i preferSun_ScorpionHee hee! Ohh I have my favourites!! Ive usually had one close best friend, and the rest are all good friends. I treat them all equally when we're around each other, but I only tell close secrets ect to my best m8. I guess thats the Scorp influence coming through! Do like to be polite to everyone though, untill their nasty, then I make sure everyone else knows about it and avoid them!! Lol! whiterabbitI do this as well (your theory holds up well). But.. while I am equally nice and friendly to everyone I like, when I specifically don't like someone, I just don't talk to them. That's it. They won't hear a peep from me. Unless they do something rude and insulting to me or someone around me. But when it comes to "like" in the romantic sense..... hmm.. I flirt with everybody but it's likely that I WON'T flirt with the person I'm attracted to****. If I'm VERY attracted to them. I'll just be polite and he'll think I'm a frigid biatch. BUT, if he starts flirting with me I will go along with it. lol.. it's all very confusing in the Libra rising universe. Or it's just mighty Uranus doing his/her thing in my chart. *edit: Not for the sake of mind games but when I really like a fellow (which is rare!) I tend to get all formal and serious.. it's very odd. Unless I can tell the feeling is mutual. Sun_ScorpionHey WR! Im totally the same guy-wise too!!!Its hopeless!! The worst is when the one you really like casually chats to you and you feel so shy and akward some reeeally stupid crap comes out of your mouth... and you get the look! KNow what I mean!! AzalakshHi TMNF ~Libra Sun here. May I take a poke at one of your original questions? Surely these people are impressionable somehow? Or do they just not show it?. It depends . Of course we're impressionable! If you've gotten to us, look for a bit of color to creep up the neck.....if we REALLY like you, there will be NO doubt in your mind!! We DO have some bizarre compulsion to try and not show favouratism -- it wouldn't be FAIR!!!Linda Goodman nailed the Libra look: After you've ruled the Venus dimples in or out, notice the entire effect of the face. It will always wear a markedly pleasant expression. Even when the Libran is angry, somehow he or she will manage to look mild, or at the very least, neutral. A Libran is the only person on Earth who can say, "I hate you and I'm going to punch you in the nose," and sound as if he's reciting Browning's 'How Do I Love Thee?'Good luck "reading" your Libran/Libra Rising friends ~'Zala~jane_says~Libra rising here...and yes I can relate...I totally try and be perfectly fair and reasonable with everyone in my social circle, but that doesn't necessarily apply to people outside of it..Yet I do maintain a friendly demeanor when dealing with people even those I loathe. Yes...I do have favorites and sometimes when I'm in a moment say with a student I get caught up in my doting, but most of the time I make sure to treat each individual equally as far as consequences and praise goes. It's innate and I have to abide by my instincts to keep everything in balance.Now I'm planning on getting married next summer and I'm freaking out about my bridesmaids and what to do about my maid of honor. It's driving me crazy. I simply cannot pick one over the other. So here I am putting it off, either that or I'm looking for a sign...anyway off on a tangent.I do have preferences in friends, but no one knows that for sure, but I'm sure to be inclusive at all times. lol..If this helps at all------------------We got hydroponic love % We smoke it.TulaLet's see ... technically my ascending degree is right on the cusp of Libra/Scorpio. I tend to identify more strongly with Scorpio Rising, given that my entire first house is dominated by that sign - and Mars and Uranus conjunct there, with Pluto riding the ascendant. BUT I am a solar Libra, with a Libran stellium, Moon in Taurus (in the 7th no less!), and Venus as chart dispositor, so I can relate to your friend's desire to be a bit of a people-pleaser - socially, at least.In a group, I'll go out of my way to treat everyone as equals; but, in private, my favourite people know they're favourites. I tend to attract folks of similar discretion; there hasn't been much problem with anyone feeling deprived of my attentions.And yes, even when it comes to dealing with people I dislike, my approach is "kill 'em with kindness!" Well, with most people most of the time. If you happen to get on the wrong side of my Scorpion stinger, believe me, you'll know that I really, really, really don't like you.The Mutable Night ForceWow! So many replies! 1scorp- Gentle nudge, eh? Haha, well, I've tried that before! I occasionally make some... er, suggestive comments on IM, and he usually replies with a shocked emoticon!WN- Yeah, I know what you mean, my friend only really hangs out with her main friends (us) but she's equally nice (or horrible ) to us all!SG- That does sound like something one of them would say! But I always thought it was more to do with hiding what they really thought!alanabelle- oh good. Glad to know they're not completely unbiased then!Sun Scorp- lol, so if he tells me secrets, he likes me? Well, he did once... but he was drunk!The Mutable Night Forcewhiterabbit- Hmmm interesting... yeah, my friend does that as well! That is very topsy turvy! Exactly what's confusing me!zala- Thank you for answering my questions! "I hate you and I'm going to punch you in the nose," LOL I love that bit!jane says- Hey there, welcome! Yes, that's very helpful. Thank you. Hope your wedding goes to plan! Tula- haha, I like your kill 'em with kindness approach! I would know if he liked me or not, except I'm far too modest to presume so...! AcousticGodI can confirm that TINK is indeed a Libra rising.I think I'm drawn to Libra rising people. If you can get in with them they can be quite fun. They make some of the best co-conspirators.AlternaYeah, that's how it really is. I'm like that too - even though it's obvious that I favor someone more than someone else you say, "Oh, no no EVERYONE'S MY FRIEND!" I hate using the term "Best friend" because then that one "best friend" out shines the rest, and that's not fair at all to everyone else.And having only "one friend" backfires a lot too, what happens if you're not best friends with that person anymore? So it's safer to just have everyone nearly on the same level (or at least, make it appear that way.) and it's just a lot easier and people don't feel bad. You don't want too much of someone but you don't want to little, either (at least, of someone you like.)Even if someone kind of annoys me, I'll be super kind to them too... "Oh no, what if they notice I don't like them!? I better treat them the same as everyone!" That way there won't be any conflicts and people will be happy. Libra's love harmony, after all. quote:But.. while I am equally nice and friendly to everyone I like, when I specifically don't like someone, I just don't talk to them. That's it. They won't hear a peep from me. Unless they do something rude and insulting to me or someone around me.But when it comes to "like" in the romantic sense..... hmm.. I flirt with everybody but it's likely that I WON'T flirt with the person I'm attracted to****. If I'm VERY attracted to them. I'll just be polite and he'll think I'm a frigid biatch. BUT, if he starts flirting with me I will go along with it.lol.. it's all very confusing in the Libra rising universe. Or it's just mighty Uranus doing his/her thing in my chart.*edit: Not for the sake of mind games but when I really like a fellow (which is rare!) I tend to get all formal and serious.. it's very odd. Unless I can tell the feeling is mutual. The above is WAY true for me too. Especially the edit. I'm really, really formal, serious and SHY (maybe Taurus sun doing it's thing?)This thread is SO fun to read, it's nice to hear other Libra rising experiences/thoughts/rants .. etc. celticfyreI'm a Sun Scorpio, Moon in Pisces and Libra rising...and yes I try keeping everything in balance and not rocking the boat, the pisces wants to be liked and the Scorpio want to Knock the other two's heads together 'Cuz they are being wimpy...LOL Makes for interesting days when I am in Charge in the ER...lol------------------MLastro junkieWelcome ~jane_says~ "Jane Says" (by Jane's Addiction)Jane says I'm done with Sergio He treats me like a ragdoll She hidesThe television Says I don't owe him nothing, But if he comes back again Tell him to wait right here for meOr justTry again tomorrowI'm gonna kick tomorrowGonna kick tomorrowJane says Have you seen my wig around? I feel naked without itShe knows They all want her to go But that's O.K. manShe dont like them anyway Jane says She's goin away to spainWhen she gets my money savedI'm gonna start tomorrowI'm gonna kick tomorrowGonna kick tomorrowShe gets madStarts to cry She takes a swing butShe cant hitShe don't mean no harm She just don't knowWhat else to do about itJane goesTo the store at 8:00She walk up on St. Andrews She waitsAnd gets her dinner there She pulls her dinnerFrom her pocketJane says I've never been in loveI don't know what it is Only knows if someone wants herI want them if they want meI only know they want meShe gets madAnd she starts to cryShe takes a swing manShe cant hit!She don't mean no harm She just dont knowWhat else to do about itJane saysJane says LOVE THAT SONG!! IT'S ME!!------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darknessastro junkieThe Mutable Night Force -As a Libra Sun, I've found myself becoming compulsive about "evenness" or "balance" or "fairness". Everything from having to touch my right hand the same as I touched my left hand, to correcting a crooked picture frame, to communicating to everyone in the same way. It's not overboard compulsive, but I catch myself now and again.
I know a couple of Libra risings. They both try to treat their friends with equal love/hatred (depends on the mood) but react in the same way to everyone, treating them with an almost irritating amount of fairness. OK, so in words this sounds like a lovely trait to have, but the downside is I can never tell who they do really like! Or whether they like me better than so and so etc... Again, maybe you're thinking "It's nice to like everyone!" But it's pretty much impossible, I'm sure they must 'really' prefer some people to others, and if this isn't the case, how are you meant to make an impression on them?One Libra rising I know is fantastic, I really like him, but it seems he is just as polite/nice to all my other friends, even when they do something like (and this really happened) phone him at 1 in the morning randomly or talk nonsense to him! He is too darn nice!! How am I meant to know if he actually likes me? (I can't ask him, he answers awkwardly 'Er... I like you all...!') If he really is just being nice, again, how can I tell?Surely these people are impressionable somehow? Or do they just not show it?
Anyone here a Libra Asc? Know one? Please help
Almost everyone gets an equal: please, thank-you... and usually a smile
I try and give everyone I meet an honest chance. It takes a lot for me not to like someone Well maybe not so much... as long as you're polite, honest, and treat me with the same respect I treat you... I like you
"They both try to treat their friends with equal love/hatred (depends on the mood) but react in the same way to everyone, treating them with an almost irritating amount of fairness".
I can see how it could get annoying.
I can relate with the 1:00 a.m. phone calls. I'm "that" friend.
As long as these people aren't avoiding you, than I'd say they like you.
As far as liking you more than the others? Hmmmm... If I go out of my way to be around a person, I generally enjoy them more than average.
__________________________________________-Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury and uranus Libra moon, pluto and asc.
Cool, that's a three-person pattern so far now including you!
No, sadly, he doesn't go out of his way to be around me. Does this make me just yet another person to be polite to in a sea of diplomacy?
ed: we don't live near each other- this may be the reason!
it thinks the whole libra influence of not wanting to have *too* much on one side and not enough on the other. cant like this person toooo much cuz then this person wont get enough. its almost liek i feel bad if i give one of my friends more attention and hang out with them more than i do with another set of friends or friend. i feel like im betraying them because i'm showing the other friends more attention. it's weird
i do find myself doing that a lot, its like i obviously KNOW the decision but for...*appearance wise* i dont wanna seem rude or anything so to make everyone happy why not just make it equal? :-)
------------------Libra Rising, Scorpio Sun, Leo Moon
..... hmmmmmm... this is all very confusing......
I'm assuming (could be wrong, correct me if so) that you're attracted to this person?
Well, I don't really know if it has much to do with my Libra asc. or not... but I'm generally not the type that will make the first initial "move" on another. I can be a bit confusing in that area.
If someone is interested, they almost have to smack me with it... or else I'll think they're just being friendly. Unless it's completely obvious.
belle: It can be exhausting, can't it?
________________________________________Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury and uranusLibra moon, pluto and asc.
Oh, and I think he knows. I told him... Stupid me..... oh well....
This isn't a bad thing in Libra asc books, is it....?
It will give him something to think on. Just continue to be his friend. Maybe try and give him a gentle nudge... see how he reacts.
What works on me? Charm and good conversation.
Good luck to you. __________________________________________Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury and uranusLibra moon, pluto and asc.
But yeah, I’ve noticed Libras rising’s and Sun’s……..and Moons try really hard to please people.
ex. is that my bro is in jail for something he did wrong, i did not try to save him, he deserved justly to go to jail so that hes away from society. my mom finds this inhumane in me...
i think the strength of this affect would also be affected by the aspect of the ascendant with merc and sun,
my libra asc trines gem sun and gem merc, so generally come off as positive to the ppl who i put as equals.
LoveSG
always.. i have definite favorites.. i may not show it, but theres always someone i like better than others. just because i treat everyone the same, doesnt always mean i feel that way. as i said, its just not to make myself look *bad*
you me and my scorpionic side.... extreme likes and dislikes . i tend to make the first move as well, so i mean its pretty obvious if after a while in terms of who i prefer
But when it comes to "like" in the romantic sense..... hmm.. I flirt with everybody but it's likely that I WON'T flirt with the person I'm attracted to****. If I'm VERY attracted to them. I'll just be polite and he'll think I'm a frigid biatch. BUT, if he starts flirting with me I will go along with it.
lol.. it's all very confusing in the Libra rising universe. Or it's just mighty Uranus doing his/her thing in my chart.
*edit: Not for the sake of mind games but when I really like a fellow (which is rare!) I tend to get all formal and serious.. it's very odd. Unless I can tell the feeling is mutual.
Libra Sun here. May I take a poke at one of your original questions? Surely these people are impressionable somehow? Or do they just not show it?. It depends . Of course we're impressionable! If you've gotten to us, look for a bit of color to creep up the neck.....if we REALLY like you, there will be NO doubt in your mind!! We DO have some bizarre compulsion to try and not show favouratism -- it wouldn't be FAIR!!!Linda Goodman nailed the Libra look: After you've ruled the Venus dimples in or out, notice the entire effect of the face. It will always wear a markedly pleasant expression. Even when the Libran is angry, somehow he or she will manage to look mild, or at the very least, neutral. A Libran is the only person on Earth who can say, "I hate you and I'm going to punch you in the nose," and sound as if he's reciting Browning's 'How Do I Love Thee?'Good luck "reading" your Libran/Libra Rising friends ~
'Zala
Now I'm planning on getting married next summer and I'm freaking out about my bridesmaids and what to do about my maid of honor. It's driving me crazy. I simply cannot pick one over the other. So here I am putting it off, either that or I'm looking for a sign...anyway off on a tangent.
I do have preferences in friends, but no one knows that for sure, but I'm sure to be inclusive at all times. lol..If this helps at all
------------------We got hydroponic love % We smoke it.
BUT I am a solar Libra, with a Libran stellium, Moon in Taurus (in the 7th no less!), and Venus as chart dispositor, so I can relate to your friend's desire to be a bit of a people-pleaser - socially, at least.
In a group, I'll go out of my way to treat everyone as equals; but, in private, my favourite people know they're favourites. I tend to attract folks of similar discretion; there hasn't been much problem with anyone feeling deprived of my attentions.
And yes, even when it comes to dealing with people I dislike, my approach is "kill 'em with kindness!" Well, with most people most of the time. If you happen to get on the wrong side of my Scorpion stinger, believe me, you'll know that I really, really, really don't like you.
1scorp- Gentle nudge, eh? Haha, well, I've tried that before! I occasionally make some... er, suggestive comments on IM, and he usually replies with a shocked emoticon!
WN- Yeah, I know what you mean, my friend only really hangs out with her main friends (us) but she's equally nice (or horrible ) to us all!
SG- That does sound like something one of them would say! But I always thought it was more to do with hiding what they really thought!
alanabelle- oh good. Glad to know they're not completely unbiased then!
Sun Scorp- lol, so if he tells me secrets, he likes me? Well, he did once... but he was drunk!
zala- Thank you for answering my questions! "I hate you and I'm going to punch you in the nose," LOL I love that bit!
jane says- Hey there, welcome! Yes, that's very helpful. Thank you. Hope your wedding goes to plan!
Tula- haha, I like your kill 'em with kindness approach! I would know if he liked me or not, except I'm far too modest to presume so...!
I think I'm drawn to Libra rising people. If you can get in with them they can be quite fun. They make some of the best co-conspirators.
I'm like that too - even though it's obvious that I favor someone more than someone else you say, "Oh, no no EVERYONE'S MY FRIEND!"
I hate using the term "Best friend" because then that one "best friend" out shines the rest, and that's not fair at all to everyone else.
And having only "one friend" backfires a lot too, what happens if you're not best friends with that person anymore? So it's safer to just have everyone nearly on the same level (or at least, make it appear that way.) and it's just a lot easier and people don't feel bad. You don't want too much of someone but you don't want to little, either (at least, of someone you like.)
Even if someone kind of annoys me, I'll be super kind to them too... "Oh no, what if they notice I don't like them!? I better treat them the same as everyone!" That way there won't be any conflicts and people will be happy. Libra's love harmony, after all.
quote:But.. while I am equally nice and friendly to everyone I like, when I specifically don't like someone, I just don't talk to them. That's it. They won't hear a peep from me. Unless they do something rude and insulting to me or someone around me.But when it comes to "like" in the romantic sense..... hmm.. I flirt with everybody but it's likely that I WON'T flirt with the person I'm attracted to****. If I'm VERY attracted to them. I'll just be polite and he'll think I'm a frigid biatch. BUT, if he starts flirting with me I will go along with it.lol.. it's all very confusing in the Libra rising universe. Or it's just mighty Uranus doing his/her thing in my chart.*edit: Not for the sake of mind games but when I really like a fellow (which is rare!) I tend to get all formal and serious.. it's very odd. Unless I can tell the feeling is mutual.
The above is WAY true for me too. Especially the edit. I'm really, really formal, serious and SHY (maybe Taurus sun doing it's thing?)
This thread is SO fun to read, it's nice to hear other Libra rising experiences/thoughts/rants .. etc.
------------------ML
"Jane Says" (by Jane's Addiction)
Jane says I'm done with Sergio He treats me like a ragdoll She hidesThe television Says I don't owe him nothing, But if he comes back again Tell him to wait right here for meOr justTry again tomorrowI'm gonna kick tomorrowGonna kick tomorrow
Jane says Have you seen my wig around? I feel naked without itShe knows They all want her to go But that's O.K. manShe dont like them anyway Jane says She's goin away to spainWhen she gets my money savedI'm gonna start tomorrowI'm gonna kick tomorrowGonna kick tomorrow
She gets madStarts to cry She takes a swing butShe cant hitShe don't mean no harm She just don't knowWhat else to do about it
Jane goesTo the store at 8:00She walk up on St. Andrews She waitsAnd gets her dinner there She pulls her dinnerFrom her pocketJane says I've never been in loveI don't know what it is Only knows if someone wants herI want them if they want meI only know they want me
She gets madAnd she starts to cryShe takes a swing manShe cant hit!She don't mean no harm She just dont knowWhat else to do about it
Jane saysJane says
LOVE THAT SONG!! IT'S ME!!
------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness
As a Libra Sun, I've found myself becoming compulsive about "evenness" or "balance" or "fairness". Everything from having to touch my right hand the same as I touched my left hand, to correcting a crooked picture frame, to communicating to everyone in the same way. It's not overboard compulsive, but I catch myself now and again.
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